complex no.s and exponential angles

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#1 Pubblicato: 15/12/2021 06:27:32
John Heidenreich

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I have assigned angles to three currents, but I am getting an error because Smath thinks the units are different, but they are the same.
Error message is: 'Units don't match'.
Also |I.V current| is displayed as 752/25A instead of 30.08A, guess i need to do some tweaking somewhere.
I suspect I am doing something basically wrong. Hope someone can put me back on track,

kind regards,

John

File non trovato.File non trovato.
#2 Pubblicato: 15/12/2021 07:04:15
sergio

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You simply went wrong to enter the complex exponential function. See that it is blue: it has been inserted as a unit of measurement and then elements are added with different units.
Solver_2UMcv4Pn1Q.png
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#3 Pubblicato: 15/12/2021 22:28:22
John Heidenreich

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You simply went wrong to enter the complex exponential function. See that it is blue: it has been inserted as a unit of measurement and then elements are added with different units.
Solver_2UMcv4Pn1Q.png
sergio



Thank you Pompelmo, that's got me going
#4 Pubblicato: 16/12/2021 14:56:13
Jean Giraud

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I suspect I am doing something basically wrong. Hope someone can put me back on track,


Hello John,
Once all e^ doctored exp(,) ... no more units don't match
At this point, you are the expert to sanity your project.
Up there, Santa has a flat chariot
Take are ... Jean.

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#5 Pubblicato: 16/12/2021 19:47:59
John Heidenreich

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I suspect I am doing something basically wrong. Hope someone can put me back on track,


Hello John,
Once all e^ doctored exp(,) ... no more units don't match
At this point, you are the expert to sanity your project.
Up there, Santa has a flat chariot (a small no. of people think the earth is flat, I think it is slightly oblate spheroidal, like a spinning pizza)
Take are ... Jean.

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Thank you Jean for your time correcting my file, unfortunately I could not open it. However, it did give me impetus to carry on with my Pompelmo corrected file.

So here it is so far.

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Jean if you would like me to add to this, perhaps draw rotating graphs of the pos, neg zero sequence components i would be happy to, but will need some help with the graph stuff and animation,

Kind regards

John

Its going to be a hot one, 36C today.
#6 Pubblicato: 16/12/2021 20:24:46
Jean Giraud

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Thank you Jean for your time correcting my file, unfortunately I could not open it. However, it did give me impetus to carry on with my Pompelmo corrected file.


You can conserve units [silent] and recover at the end.
First time, can't open... Jean.

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#7 Pubblicato: 16/12/2021 21:01:11
overlord

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Your file has a non calculated matrix you have mentioned.
Here it is corrected, just put a line before expression.
The line usually fix that kind of problems.

And e^ is working fine, no difference in your file while using e^ or exp().

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Never ever use "silence units", whatever that garbage term means. It is utterly useless crap.
You would just define again already defined unit with a different name which won't interact with other units.
If available always use bundled, included units. That is what a sane people do.

And Jean, stop misleading new users with your nonsense.
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#8 Pubblicato: 16/12/2021 21:54:35
John Heidenreich

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Your file has a non calculated matrix you have mentioned.
Here it is corrected, just put a line before expression.
The line usually fix that kind of problems.

And e^ is working fine, no difference in your file while using e^ or exp().

check positive and negative sequence components_r1.sm (236,17 KiB) scaricato 1171 volta(e).


I got the line to work overlord, thank you.


#9 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 08:00:11
Jean Giraud

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Thank you Jean for your time correcting my file, unfortunately I could not open it.


First step doctored c/w units.

John exp.PNG
#10 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 08:10:03
John Heidenreich

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Thank you Jean for your time correcting my file, unfortunately I could not open it.


First step doctored c/w units.

John exp.PNG



Jean fortunately it works now after a few changes. Please see the R1 version.

Later I will add vectors in a diagram using some info from one of your plots . Then I will add animation, which should make clear to interested parties how + - and 0 sequence works.

kind regards again,

John
#11 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 08:30:51
Jean Giraud

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Jean if you would like me to add to this, perhaps draw rotating graphs of the pos, neg zero sequence components i would be happy to, but will need some help with the graph stuff and animation,


Will be back on that.

John MATRIX.PNG
#12 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 10:34:17
Jean Giraud

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... few more.

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#13 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 11:42:11
Jean Giraud

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Later I will add vectors in a diagram


Something like this, that you can scale individually.
Cheers ... Jean... please report if can't open.

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#14 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 14:36:57
overlord

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He didn't "doctored" anything for me.
(Doctored means corrected in Jean's twisted mind, what a stupid word).
There is a bug which (-1)^x sometimes wrong.
He first claimed there is no bug such as that.
I proved there is a bug indeed.
He than claimed (-1)^x don't have a mathematical meaning.
When again proved he is wrong, he posted some useless examples trying to go around the bug.
When I insisted he is still wrong, he simply deleted everything he posted.
e^(π*i) = -1 and there is no difference with e^x and exp(x).
#15 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 15:37:37
Norm Schutzkus

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My 2 cents. I hope this is helpful.

Sincerely,

Norm
#16 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 17:29:08
Jean Giraud

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Something like this, that you can scale individually.
Cheers ... Jean... please report if can't open.


... refactored version to get rid of rkfixed
Jean.

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#17 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 22:07:03
John Heidenreich

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Ang Sample.sm (25,32 KiB) scaricato 1193 volta(e).

My 2 cents. I hope this is helpful.

Sincerely,

Norm



Nasch you have some good stuff here I am going to cherry pick the bit I can use thank you :
#18 Pubblicato: 17/12/2021 22:13:19
John Heidenreich

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Something like this, that you can scale individually.
Cheers ... Jean... please report if can't open.


... refactored version to get rid of rkfixed
Jean.

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First one was good Jean, this one is even better. I can use this thank you
#19 Pubblicato: 18/12/2021 02:26:27
John Heidenreich

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Something like this, that you can scale individually.
Cheers ... Jean... please report if can't open.


... refactored version to get rid of rkfixed
Jean.

2D Util Bar Arrow Creator [3 phases motor].sm (17,46 KiB) scaricato 1024 volta(e).




Jean, I have added your graph feature to the document, but cannot quite get it to work.

I need to be able to add magnitude and angle to each of the three vectors with arrow heads and the graph needs to scale as well, perhaps 1.5 times greatest magnitude.

graph inputs.JPG

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thank you.
#20 Pubblicato: 18/12/2021 02:31:11
John Heidenreich

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Something like this, that you can scale individually.
Cheers ... Jean... please report if can't open.


... refactored version to get rid of rkfixed
Jean.

2D Util Bar Arrow Creator [3 phases motor].sm (17,46 KiB) scaricato 1024 volta(e).




Jean, I have added your graph feature to the document, but cannot quite get it to work.

I need to be able to add magnitude and angle to each of the three vectors with arrow heads and the graph needs to scale as well, perhaps 1.5 times greatest magnitude.

graph inputs.JPG

check positive and negative sequence components_r1-1_works.sm (324,3 KiB) scaricato 1250 volta(e).


thank you.



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