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#1 Publicado: 19/4/2020 8:24:42
haweHofmann

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Hallo zusammen,

DimEigenraum: (n-rank(A-λ*E))=1@#
should be 2
some steps of elementary row additions later
is 2

https://de.smath.com/cloud/sheet/vooDFR4FbP

any idea whats wrong?
#2 Publicado: 19/4/2020 10:08:10
Davide Carpi

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Wrote

https://de.smath.com/cloud/sheet/vooDFR4FbP



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#3 Publicado: 19/4/2020 10:19:42
haweHofmann

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Upps, sorry

Made a link
https://de.smath.com/cloud/worksheet/3BgYDE7e,


Maxima pure
(%i6) A: matrix([1,1,1,-1,0],[0,1,0,0,1],[0,0,0,1,0],[0,0,-1,2,1],[0,0,0,0,1])$
(%i7) A-1*ident(5)$
(%i5) rank(A-1*ident(5));
(%o5) 3
but
Maxima(rank(A-1*identity(5)))=4
or
DimEigenraum: (n-rank(A-λ*E))=1
#4 Publicado: 19/4/2020 13:37:27
Martin Kraska

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The referenced sheet seems to use Maxima(). This doesn't work, as third party plug-ins aren't available in the cloud version.
It is better to attach such files here.
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#5 Publicado: 19/4/2020 13:50:54
Jean Giraud

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rank(M) ... matrix rank is Smath built-in.
Here is a most precious application.

Matrix PseudoInverse.sm (111,21 KiB) descargado 1225 vez(es).
#6 Publicado: 19/4/2020 14:09:48
haweHofmann

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rank(M) ... matrix rank is Smath built-in.
Matrix PseudoInverse.sm (111,21 KiB) descargado 1225 vez(es).


and in how far do your example explain the incorrect calculation


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The referenced sheet seems to use Maxima(). This doesn't work, as third party plug-ins aren't available in the cloud version.
It is better to attach such files here.



the Maxima part calculate the single eigenvalue which is set manually in cloud version

SMath Studio 0.99.6884 - [JordanMatrix5x5-5fachEW-HV.1.2.Stufe.sm_]_2020-04-19_19-07-08.jpg

JordanMatrix5x5-5fachEW-HV.1.2.Stufe .sm (47,19 KiB) descargado 1188 vez(es).
#7 Publicado: 19/4/2020 23:51:44
Alvaro

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Hi. You're right, it's a bug and there are no way to make this works (numerical nor symbolic):

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First column is zero and 3th = - 4th columns, so can't be rank = 4.

Best regards.

Alvaro.
#8 Publicado: 20/4/2020 11:51:33
Jean Giraud

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and in how far do your example explain the incorrect calculation


Just advanced maths above the classroom.
Your example replies bug from incorrectly threaded input.
As given, your [5*5] matrix has no mathematical meaning.

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#9 Publicado: 20/4/2020 14:19:49
Jean Giraud

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... clean the bugger
What application do you have for "rank(,) ?
Don't confuse with Rank in Data Analysis.
rref [Row Reduce Echelon Function] is a damned long monkey business.
Has it been done in Smath ... Watson ?


rref.PNG
#10 Publicado: 20/4/2020 14:51:32
Jean Giraud

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... Rank(V)
Given a set of data values, the rank of each value is the position
at which that value appears in a sorted list of the data.
When values repeat, the rank is an average of the indices where
the value occurs after sorting.
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