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#1 Publicado: 26/9/2023 2:22:21
Valery Ochkov

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Continuing the topic
https://en.smath.com/forum/yaf_postst23677_Why-I-have-no.aspx

This is a clothoid or Euler spiral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_spiral). It is said about it that its curvature depends linearly on its length. How to show it in SMath?
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#2 Publicado: 26/9/2023 8:41:22
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Hi Valery. SMath doesn't know how to handle the derivative of an integral, neither numerically nor symbolically. As workaround, you can try this approach:

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Best regards.
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#3 Publicado: 27/9/2023 8:55:52
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This is a clothoid or Euler spiral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_spiral). It is said about it that its curvature depends linearly on its length. How to show it in SMath ?


The curvature exists in the ± 1 range. But not as you attempted.
Let my tech doctor Win 10, will attach later.
Jean.

#4 Publicado: 27/9/2023 19:06:44
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How to show it in SMath ?


Maths Clothoid Copy.sm (53,73 KiB) descargado 1469 vez(es).

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#5 Publicado: 28/9/2023 3:58:26
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How to show it in SMath ?


Maths Clothoid Copy.sm (53,73 KiB) descargado 1469 vez(es).



#6 Publicado: 28/9/2023 3:59:06
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#7 Publicado: 28/9/2023 4:19:07
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Continuing the topic

This is a clothoid or Euler spiral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_spiral). It is said about it that its curvature depends linearly on its length. How to show it in SMath?



For the attached sheet to work, the Statistical Tools plugin must be deactivated, because it's erf() shadows the Maxima function erf().

The curvature-arclength plot is easily done, yet the xy plot of the curve itself fails because Maxima isn't able to evaluate the functions x(t) and y(t).

Yet, it is not proof of linearity, just an illustration.

Spiral-Euler_Kr.png
Spiral-Euler_Kr.sm (34,32 KiB) descargado 1468 vez(es).
Technische Mechanik mit SMath Studio: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-658-50592-9
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#8 Publicado: 28/9/2023 11:22:42
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