Solve with 4 args

Solve with 4 args - Is it a bug? - Mensajes

#1 Publicado: 15/7/2026 7:34:36
Valery Ochkov

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#2 Publicado: 15/7/2026 11:14:15
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Hi Valery. It seems that solve doesn't know how to order the interval.

The 6 solutions numerically

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And symbolically

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#3 Publicado: 17/7/2026 7:17:36
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Thanks, Alvaro

It is one task from the article
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#4 Publicado: 25/7/2026 5:40:05
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Do you know the best solution in SMath?
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#5 Publicado: 25/7/2026 15:50:39
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Hi Valery. Two ways.

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Mathcad 11:

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#6 Publicado: 25/7/2026 19:20:52
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And what about this. We can create an animation.
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Editado 25/7/2026 19:47:21
#7 Publicado: 26/7/2026 2:28:14
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It's possible, although speed isn't one of SMath's main features. And with so few points, there isn't much accuracy.

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Valery Ochkov 26/7/2026 13:14:28
#8 Publicado: 26/7/2026 13:40:28
Вячеслав Мезенцев

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I can write a function that returns a set of closed isolines. The area can be calculated from the points on the curve. To construct implicit graphs, a function is used that returns the coordinate sets of the found isolines.
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#9 Publicado: 26/7/2026 14:36:05
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I can write a function that returns a set of closed isolines. The area can be calculated from the points on the curve. To construct implicit graphs, a function is used that returns the coordinate sets of the found isolines.


Вячеслав, привет!
Брось все силы на создание инструментов оптимизации с ограничением типа Given... Minimize/Maximize в Mathcad 15. Этого очень не хватает в SMath.
И Андрей на это настроен.
#10 Publicado: 27/7/2026 1:25:09
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Using Dragilev Method.

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Area and Arc Length of an Implicit Planar Closed Curve - Dragilev Method.sm (16,28 KiB) descargado 879 vez(es).

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Valery Ochkov 27/7/2026 6:01:49, Вячеслав Мезенцев 27/7/2026 13:28:37
#11 Publicado: 27/7/2026 13:27:20
Вячеслав Мезенцев

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Yes, something like this with the Gaussian area formula.
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#12 Publicado: 28/7/2026 8:24:46
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Yes, something like this with the Gaussian area formula.


Hi Viacheslav. In that case, I'd like to point out that dividing by the norme (Δ) means the curve is parameterized with respect to arc length, and that if you're going to improve the points using the original function, you must also do so with the parameter variable, which in the program's notation is T. This is because Dragilev's method ultimately obtains the parametric expressions x(t) and y(t) from the implicit function f(x,y) when starting from a point (xo,yo) on the curve.

This is one way to correct the arc length given by T if you choose to improve the curve points, although there must be better methods involving splines for curves in the plane, not just single-valued functions. There are also better approximations for the area enclosed by the curve; the one used here is simply the area defined by a closed polygon.

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Valery Ochkov 28/7/2026 16:17:18
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