wrong mixed second derivateves

wrong mixed second derivateves - omorr - Сообщения

#1 Опубликовано: 25.06.2012 04:17:37
Radovan Omorjan

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Hello,

Look at this please
[MATH=eng]f:el(x,1)^3+el(x,2)^3[/MATH]

This is correct:
[MATH=eng]diff(diff(f,el(x,1)),el(x,2))=0[/MATH]

But this is obviously wrong:
v0.95
[MATH=eng]diff(diff(f,el(x,2)),el(x,1))=-el(x,2)*(-1+el(x,2))[/MATH]

It seems that is still present in v.90 as well:
v0.90
[MATH=eng]diff(diff(f,el(x,2)),el(x,1))—-(-1+el(x,2))*el(x,2)[/MATH]

In v0.89.8 you will get the right answer - zeros for both mixed derivatives.

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Radovan
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#2 Опубликовано: 30.07.2012 03:14:57
Radovan Omorjan

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Hello,

This is still present in 0.95 build 4594 (30 July 2012).

Any comments?

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Radovan
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#3 Опубликовано: 30.07.2012 18:59:59
Davide Carpi

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Hi omorr,

Wrote

Hello,

This is still present in 0.95 build 4594 (30 July 2012).

Any comments?

Regards,
Radovan


I confirm!

seem related to the symbolic simplification (see the attachments)


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#4 Опубликовано: 08.10.2012 19:26:09
Davide Carpi

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Here some (probably) related issues.


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#5 Опубликовано: 10.10.2012 16:33:54
Ruben Sidranski

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It's the way SMath handles/prioritizes ASCII characters. I ran into a similar issue with MathCAD. In this case, the second variable of "x" (in the equation) has to be the first variable of the first derivative as shown in w3b5urf3r's screen shot.
#6 Опубликовано: 03.05.2013 16:11:41
Radovan Omorjan

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Hello,

I must be boring with this , but I think there is neither solution nor satisfactory explanation of this "glitch" regarding second derivatives.
Still present in 0.96

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Radovan
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#7 Опубликовано: 03.05.2013 16:23:02
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#8 Опубликовано: 03.05.2013 16:32:12
Radovan Omorjan

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Wrote

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Yes, I know. Thank you . I did it on purpose, just to put the stress that maple did it right.

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Radovan
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