Ideal Rankine cycle

Ideal Rankine cycle - with T, s diagram - Messages

#1 Posted: 5/15/2023 1:56:26 PM
Valery Ochkov

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See please the attachRaschjot STU.sm (292 KiB) downloaded 85 time(s).
#2 Posted: 5/31/2023 6:00:52 PM
Alvaro Diaz Falconi

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Hi. I don't understand how you get Q5 = 77.8518 % given that at T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it must tu be Q5 = 50 %.

This is a more direct way of solving the problem, in the sense that the same results are obtained. A great advantage of using functions of two variables for thermodynamic variables is that now you don't have to look them up in tables, and therefore you no longer need to separate the vapor and liquid parts to find them in tables.

Raschjot STU.sm (574 KiB) downloaded 62 time(s).

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#3 Posted: 6/1/2023 3:03:16 AM
Valery Ochkov

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Hi. I don't understand how you get Q5 = 77.8518 % given that at T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it must be Q5 = 50 %.
Raschjot STU.sm (574 KiB) downloaded 62 time(s).

Best regards.
Alvaro.



At T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it Q5 must be from 0 % to 100%.

If Q5=50% - it is not a steam turbine - it is a 50% steam turbine and a 50% water turbine ;-)
Calculation with WaterSteamPro
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#4 Posted: 6/1/2023 7:24:44 AM
Alvaro Diaz Falconi

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Hi. I don't understand how you get Q5 = 77.8518 % given that at T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it must be Q5 = 50 %.
Raschjot STU.sm (574 KiB) downloaded 62 time(s).

Best regards.
Alvaro.



At T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it Q5 must be from 0 % to 100%.

If Q5=50% - it is not a steam turbine - it is a 50% steam turbine and a 50% water turbine ;-) ...




You're right. I put the numbers backwards. The correct question is why do you use Q5 = 50% since the correct value is Q5 = 77.85%?

In the attached file, in addition to showing the most direct way to calculate all the states, the T-s and T-h diagrams are added.

Raschjot STU Ideal.pdf (398 KiB) downloaded 79 time(s).
Raschjot STU Ideal.sm (308 KiB) downloaded 74 time(s).

Best regards.
Alvaro.
#5 Posted: 6/1/2023 4:22:49 PM
Valery Ochkov

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Hi. I don't understand how you get Q5 = 77.8518 % given that at T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it must be Q5 = 50 %.
Raschjot STU.sm (574 KiB) downloaded 62 time(s).

Best regards.
Alvaro.



At T5 = 32.88°C and P5 = 5 kPa it Q5 must be from 0 % to 100%.

If Q5=50% - it is not a steam turbine - it is a 50% steam turbine and a 50% water turbine ;-) ...




You're right. I put the numbers backwards. The correct question is why do you use Q5 = 50% since the correct value is Q5 = 77.85%?

In the attached file, in addition to showing the most direct way to calculate all the states, the T-s and T-h diagrams are added.

Raschjot STU Ideal.pdf (398 KiB) downloaded 79 time(s).
Raschjot STU Ideal.sm (308 KiB) downloaded 74 time(s).

Best regards.
Alvaro.


We can use Q=1, 0, 77.85% etc
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